I made this comment to a blog obsessing over pedophiles:
Even with my limited understanding of history, I believe this goes back a long long ways. It wasn't long ago that the age of consent was 8, and before that it was 4, and just another few hundred years back there was no such idea. Surely there was plenty of this going on openly in Rome before Christianity, and probably afterwards too.
So if this is the moral precipice, shouldn't we have long fallen over by now?
Other animals I watch, like cats, seem to start getting it on with same and other about as soon as they can walk. That's also true of Bonobos we are similar to in many ways.
Always having preferred maturity, I have no interest, and (depending on details, current laws are insane IMO) may be wrong in our complicated society. But the endless (meta) obsession about it seems to be misplaced. There is far worse going on IMO. I think the obsession results from an extremely strong anti hedonism in our culture, combined with social isolation engineered by the ruling classes, and our larger problems are lack of sex and friendship through one's whole life. We should be wondering why, men and women are getting further and further apart, and many people don't get any sex through their entire lives. But the current lack of sex and friendship for most suits the ruling classes, who would just as soon have nearly all children (except their own) produced by the ultra religious, all the better to exploit, and other people maximally isolated to prevent uprisings and unions. "Every person alone with their TV." THAT is the source of the obsession about this issue, IMO, and explains why the War Media endlessly hypes sex war (and "other choices" that may eventually fall flat) too. In short, all to keep all separated and sniping at each other, rather than liking and loving.
Rather than trying to find where childhood sex began, it's far easier to see when the obsessions against it began. That was the Victorian era, which represented the height of British Imperialism, and no coincidence.
Even with my limited understanding of history, I believe this goes back a long long ways. It wasn't long ago that the age of consent was 8, and before that it was 4, and just another few hundred years back there was no such idea. Surely there was plenty of this going on openly in Rome before Christianity, and probably afterwards too.
So if this is the moral precipice, shouldn't we have long fallen over by now?
Other animals I watch, like cats, seem to start getting it on with same and other about as soon as they can walk. That's also true of Bonobos we are similar to in many ways.
Always having preferred maturity, I have no interest, and (depending on details, current laws are insane IMO) may be wrong in our complicated society. But the endless (meta) obsession about it seems to be misplaced. There is far worse going on IMO. I think the obsession results from an extremely strong anti hedonism in our culture, combined with social isolation engineered by the ruling classes, and our larger problems are lack of sex and friendship through one's whole life. We should be wondering why, men and women are getting further and further apart, and many people don't get any sex through their entire lives. But the current lack of sex and friendship for most suits the ruling classes, who would just as soon have nearly all children (except their own) produced by the ultra religious, all the better to exploit, and other people maximally isolated to prevent uprisings and unions. "Every person alone with their TV." THAT is the source of the obsession about this issue, IMO, and explains why the War Media endlessly hypes sex war (and "other choices" that may eventually fall flat) too. In short, all to keep all separated and sniping at each other, rather than liking and loving.
Rather than trying to find where childhood sex began, it's far easier to see when the obsessions against it began. That was the Victorian era, which represented the height of British Imperialism, and no coincidence.
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