Rank and file Democrats seem to be doing a lot of magical thinking here. First, convicting Trump would require a 2/3 Supermajority in the Senate which has a Majority of Republicans. The partisanship shown in the impeachment, ignoring Biden's crimes, and the arguably unconstitutional operation of CIA officials, following on the trail of the RussiaGate fabrications, lies and hyperbole are not going to win any Republican friends in the Senate. We already know the outline of UkraineGate, and it hasn't changed anyone's mind. What remains to be done is to prove what the President intended and when he intended it. Intent is as always is near impossible to prove, and so this can drag on forever (which must be the plan). All the theatrics and hyperbole keeps people wrapped to their newsfeeds but most likely isn't going to change the mind of a single Republican Senator--who probably don't even care if the President's intent was to benefit his own campaign with crude extortion. The intent of the investigation demanded has already, can and will always be framed by Republicans as serving a deep need for justice in Ukraine (which it could even be, theoretically, if done towards proving how the coup in Ukraine started, but it's implausible even Trump would go there, and there is no evidence either). And the claim that this endangered US Security is absolute balderdash--we should be stopping the military "aid" everywhere (Ukraine, Syria, Israel, Egypt) anyway to quit endangering US security with such imperial intrigues. Curiously Obama refused to send the military aid to Ukraine altogether during the last years of his administration. And now, the current Ukrainian President is even more interested in making Peace.
Electing a lot more Democratic Senators would be a good thing, but numerically it's not any easier than just electing a Democratic President, and no way are we going to get to 2/3 Democrats in the Senate. And this highly partisan issue probably isn't going to help elect new Democratic Senators anyway, it's just the same old hyperpartisanship which most who are not solid blue despise. It would be more likely to Lose close races for Democrats, the same races Democrats might win by opposing actual Trump policies and failures and proposing popular policies, like Medicare for All instead.
And then, most rank and file Democrats, like me, wouldn't even necessarily prefer Pence. Nothing in the docket here relates to Pence at all. But most seem to magically feel Impeachment would remove Pence also (most I've talked to do) with no plausible justification. Somehow, it will just happen, Trump and Pence with one Impeachment.
Somewhere, there have to be some people who are not thinking magically about all this. And their goal must be something different, which I'm pretty sure is far more about Controlling Trump, making sure he wouldn't be tempted to make peace anywhere, and also helping to get him re-elected because he is so easy to control. That must be what the Deepstate is actually doing.
Yep, that's it, it's all about controlling and re-electing Trump, not removing him. Democrats do have a solution to that--select the candidate with the most intense appeal to both partisans and non-aligned voters: Bernie Sanders. That would get a lot of new Democratic Senators elected also. But corporatist DNC would rather lose than do that.
Electing a lot more Democratic Senators would be a good thing, but numerically it's not any easier than just electing a Democratic President, and no way are we going to get to 2/3 Democrats in the Senate. And this highly partisan issue probably isn't going to help elect new Democratic Senators anyway, it's just the same old hyperpartisanship which most who are not solid blue despise. It would be more likely to Lose close races for Democrats, the same races Democrats might win by opposing actual Trump policies and failures and proposing popular policies, like Medicare for All instead.
And then, most rank and file Democrats, like me, wouldn't even necessarily prefer Pence. Nothing in the docket here relates to Pence at all. But most seem to magically feel Impeachment would remove Pence also (most I've talked to do) with no plausible justification. Somehow, it will just happen, Trump and Pence with one Impeachment.
Somewhere, there have to be some people who are not thinking magically about all this. And their goal must be something different, which I'm pretty sure is far more about Controlling Trump, making sure he wouldn't be tempted to make peace anywhere, and also helping to get him re-elected because he is so easy to control. That must be what the Deepstate is actually doing.
Yep, that's it, it's all about controlling and re-electing Trump, not removing him. Democrats do have a solution to that--select the candidate with the most intense appeal to both partisans and non-aligned voters: Bernie Sanders. That would get a lot of new Democratic Senators elected also. But corporatist DNC would rather lose than do that.
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