Sunday, October 27, 2019

Ukranian Interference in 2016

The New York Times (and other US mainstream media) proclaims that Ukraine interference in the 2016 Presidential Election is a debunked conspiracy theory.  Oh, and that Biden's phone calls didn't cause the firing of the investigator of the company Hunter Biden worked for.  Both claims are easily proven false.

On the Ukranian interference, this is the easy connection to prove, since it's all from fairly major sources.  In March 2016, Ukranian-American DNC staffer Alexandra Chalupa went to the Ukranian embassy in Washington DC asking for dirt on Donald Trump.

The Ukranian government in 2016 had every reason to cooperate with the DNC, not the least because Trump had sounded very much like he was going to pursue a normalization of relations with Russia, when the Ukranian government was still (and still is) fighting a war with ethnic Russian separatists who have sometimes been helped by Russia.  And the Crimean annexation, which they hoped Washington could get reversed.  They wanted a "tough on Russia" leader in the USA.

Ukranians were not shy about admitting that they were hoping to swing the election to Hillary (quotes at link below).

What we do know, is that for the benefit of the DNC the Ukranian government delivered the "Black Book" allegedly showing payments to Manafort.  This led shortly to Manfort's being fired by the Trump campaign, and reinforcing the idea that Trump was colluding with Russia, as Hillary had begun alleging earlier in July 2016.

The "Black Book" was never proven authentic...it was allegedly recovered by Ukranian rebels before the party office building burned during the coup, and there are other suspicious details.  When Manafort was later convicted, it was because of unrelated tax fraud.

All of the above is documented in the link below, which itself includes links to more mainstream sources.

So there's one electoral influence operation, I believe there are others, but let that pass until I have better info at hand.


About Biden.  The New York TImes claims that the government investigator Shokin was not fired because he was getting too close to Biden's son.  Instead, they claim he was merely fired for poor performance, and the investigation was dormant anyway.

But in fact Shokin filed two cases in 2015, and in February 2015 he seized 4 large houses and a Rolls Royce from Zlochevsky.   Starting ten days later, Biden calls Poroshenko three times in one week with only one major aim: Flre Shokin.  Biden as VP had been instrumental in the Maidan coup and Poroshenko owed him.  A week later Shokin is fired.

BIden's last official appearance as VP was to an audience of Ukranian officials.





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