Tuesday, August 13, 2024

Abraham was not Indigenous

There are a thousand reasons why the claim that (Zionist by definition) Jews can genocide Palestinians is because Jews are the true indigenous people, who were illegally kicked out by the Romans, and the Palestinians are some kind of squatter (depending on the Zionist story, perhaps only since the first pronoucements of Zionism), is wrong.

Perhaps it's unimporant, but I'd call it Reason 0:  The Foundational Myth Says Otherwise

The foundational myth of Judaism is the story of Abraham, who was a man from the City of Ur in modern Iraq.  According to this story, God promised land to Abraham's descendants.  Some time later the story continues that Hebrews, acting with the power of God, conquered a region in the central Levant and created the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah.

The foundational myth says clearly that Hebrews were Not Indigenous.  They were invaders who were promised this land (later revoked, btw) and took it with force.

Now, the main problem from a non-religious perspective is that there is no evidence any of this happened.  There is no evidence Canaan was taken by force by a family from Ur, with the original people there wiped out, etc.  The genetic evidence is that Palestinians, Jews, Samaritans, and others are all decended from Canaanites (but Jews much less so...).

I think this pretty much rules out the 'heroic' battles in which the true indigenous people were wiped out.  Those never happened.  

But what could have happened is this: A family from Ur with some peculiar religious ideas settled in the area and largely won over the region with something other than violence, likely including economic and ultimately religious ties.

The're no evidence, but it's not disproven either.  It's not disproveable.  It's not really in the realm of science.  That one family from Ur migrated to the southern central Levant and his descendants "took over" in the Iron Age.  This was the area between the Canaanite Phoenician cities and Egypt.   The Phoenician empire was concentrated in now Lebanese cities, and the southern Levant had many different tribes of different origins, but was largely originally Canaanite also (as was Jerusalem, named for the Canaanite goddess of Night and Peace...Canaanites were polytheistic in a wide way having gods for everything...we actually don't know much about the Hebrew religion except there were a few gods and one specifically for Abraham's decendants...monotheism was cribbed from Zoroastrianism when the Persian King Cyrus freed Jews from Babylonian captivity).

Since most Zionists are religious (Christian or Jewish) it would seem they should accept the existence of Abraham from Ur and that he was not indigenous.*  And even secular Jews should acknowledge it.

*Maybe it wasn't even Ur, but the basic idea was that it was somewhere else, meaning that the spiritual founder was not indigenous.  This is a religion not about being indigenous...it is about social (!!!) conquering.  It should be noted that the remaining Torah and Talmud explicitly oppose the human creation of a Jewish State also.  The Talmud sagely says the human attempt will produce antisemitism.  God alone must do that in the end times.  It takes a lot of bending to get around that (not to mention the violation of many other laws including murder and theft which the creation of a state always requires) and chutzpah that God will be fine with not waiting.  I'm an atheist, but I'd be afraid of all that.  I don't wantonly squash bugs in the yard either.  I don't want to tempt the darkness.  You never know when it's all going to blow back.




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