I haven't been a fan of Ukrainegate because of various issues, military aid to Ukraine was something I opposed anyway.
But Trump may have done illegal and otherwise impeachable things here. (Popular myths notwithstanding, anything is Impeachable, all the rules are decided by the House itself and not some court.) And besides I think there are a dozen other far better reasons he should be impeached, which weren't selected to become part of our national dialogue mostly because of our bi-partisan war and corporatocracy consensus.
So why not vote to impeach? I can't think of any reason not to vote to impeach. I would.
Will the Senate reverse the case and make a fool of Democrats?
In principle, if they were smart, they could. MoonOfAlabama is sure the Senate would make Democrats look bad about the impeachment, with greater corruption on the Democrat side, so this would cost Democrats both the removal of Trump AND success in 2020.
But I have faith. The Senate Republican Leadership will look as bad as ever, and in the end the Democrats will not clearly look worse. Whether or not Trump is actually removed. Republicans will not make the best case against UkraineGate just as Democrats could not choose a better case than UkraineGate, for bipartisan "national security" reasons. Neither side will decisively win or lose as a result.
It won't change anyone's mind, nor remove Trump, and will be a big waste of time notwithstanding. But we've gone so far down the plank we might as well jump. Maybe I'm just resigned to it, and don't want to be blamed yet again for making Trump possible. Meanwhile I'll just keep on mostly ignoring the details behind the hyperbolic headlines until the dust settles.
Under the current circumstances, the current Congress can't do anything important anyway, though in my dreams the House would be passing "model" legislation*, showing what Democrats could do if they won in 2020. Won't happen because Congressional democrats are mostly corporate fat cats and don't want to be pushing a left agenda.
The one loss is airwaves for truly progressive 2020 campaigns, like Bernie's. But Bernie himself is calling for full on Impeachment, conviction, and everything. So it seems I can hardly support Bernie by opposing him on this. He asked for it. His commitment to Impeachment and Conviction inspired me to write this post.
(*Model legislation, or shadow governments, is what truly democratic but oppressed opposition groups must do. They must be the change they want to see. Failure to do this, merely chanting The Regime Must Go along with violent acts is Trotskyism or other proto- Fascism. Merely replacing the old boss with a new boss rarely improves matters, except for some insiders.)
But Trump may have done illegal and otherwise impeachable things here. (Popular myths notwithstanding, anything is Impeachable, all the rules are decided by the House itself and not some court.) And besides I think there are a dozen other far better reasons he should be impeached, which weren't selected to become part of our national dialogue mostly because of our bi-partisan war and corporatocracy consensus.
So why not vote to impeach? I can't think of any reason not to vote to impeach. I would.
Will the Senate reverse the case and make a fool of Democrats?
In principle, if they were smart, they could. MoonOfAlabama is sure the Senate would make Democrats look bad about the impeachment, with greater corruption on the Democrat side, so this would cost Democrats both the removal of Trump AND success in 2020.
But I have faith. The Senate Republican Leadership will look as bad as ever, and in the end the Democrats will not clearly look worse. Whether or not Trump is actually removed. Republicans will not make the best case against UkraineGate just as Democrats could not choose a better case than UkraineGate, for bipartisan "national security" reasons. Neither side will decisively win or lose as a result.
It won't change anyone's mind, nor remove Trump, and will be a big waste of time notwithstanding. But we've gone so far down the plank we might as well jump. Maybe I'm just resigned to it, and don't want to be blamed yet again for making Trump possible. Meanwhile I'll just keep on mostly ignoring the details behind the hyperbolic headlines until the dust settles.
Under the current circumstances, the current Congress can't do anything important anyway, though in my dreams the House would be passing "model" legislation*, showing what Democrats could do if they won in 2020. Won't happen because Congressional democrats are mostly corporate fat cats and don't want to be pushing a left agenda.
The one loss is airwaves for truly progressive 2020 campaigns, like Bernie's. But Bernie himself is calling for full on Impeachment, conviction, and everything. So it seems I can hardly support Bernie by opposing him on this. He asked for it. His commitment to Impeachment and Conviction inspired me to write this post.
(*Model legislation, or shadow governments, is what truly democratic but oppressed opposition groups must do. They must be the change they want to see. Failure to do this, merely chanting The Regime Must Go along with violent acts is Trotskyism or other proto- Fascism. Merely replacing the old boss with a new boss rarely improves matters, except for some insiders.)
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