Tuesday, December 30, 2025

Lies about the Talmud

I've stated in general terms the same thing before, but a Reddit poster gives a lengthy rebuttal to some of the common tropes about the Talmud:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/18fz2h2/a_response_to_arguments_containing_false_talmudic/

Where it is claimed the Talmud calls non-jews 'beasts,' the actual term is 'worshipper of stars' (contextually meaning polytheistic idolators).

The passage cited is actually an argument as to why visiting non-jewish graves does not require ritual purification.

Now that's not to say the Talmud is not without good criticism, I've made those before too.  While in fact the Talmud says that to save a non-Jews life is more important that all but 3 things: murder, disallowed sex, and idolatry, it does not in fact call for equality for all people, it calls for fairness to non-jews, and more-than-fairness to Jews.  That's where the supremacism can creep in.  Though it doesn't necessarily have to, I've never experienced any myself, Jews have always been more-than-fair to me personally, and I can see numerous historical examples (eg Jonas Salk).  And hardly any other religion offers equality for all (only such as Unitarian Universalism) anyway.  

But what we've seen with Zionism and Israel is disgusting, and in my mind a complete negation of both the Talmud and the Torah.  Zionists have utterly lost their Judaism in all but name only.  They have become the idolators of death and destruction, genocide, and not just statehood (which would be bad enough, actually, to qualify as an an idolatry, even if it could be done without death and destruction, just merely by the slightest unfairness--which is still against God's rules--and it's obvious this is not humanly possible...hence not surprising the Talmud and Torah both say Jews must wait for the Messiah).  But such is the modern infotainment reality, Zionist Jews can live in their own bubble of lies and be fine with the death, destruction, and genocide Zionism requires in the name of idolatrous statehood.  

I love my hobbies, but I don't murder, steal, lie or do anything unfair to pursue them.  I always try to be as fair as I can be, or more than fair.  Fairness is a good idea in business and banking too.  That's how you get good will.  And that's what the Talmud is supposed to help people learn.  It was fairly successful in that for over a thousand years before the rise of Zionism, which sadly it was unable to stop.

Though the Talmud (seems to?) denounce Jesus (I wonder if in fact it is denouncing Paul, the real inventor of modern Christianity and in my view that denunciation is just about warranted), it seems to me the story of Jesus is a perfectly fitting illustration of both Torah and Talmudic 'values'.  Jesus was quoting Leviticus when he said to love others as yourself.  The New Testament figures were themselves all Jews, including Jesus and Paul, and many of their followers as well.



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